I believe one of the most important things we can do as a community is to help promote the health of the protocol.
This means we need input from community members like you when considering things like ethics and conduct.
Questions:
Should people be able to purchase POAP’s on the secondary market?
If so, what might be a good or bad reason to purchase a POAP on the secondary market?
How should we think about those who intentionally try and manipulate the protocol?
What should be done with people caught sharing Secret Words?
What should be done with people caught collecting POAPs from events they did not attend?
Precedent:
Precedent has already been set previously when the POAP Curation Body ran a deep investigation and found a user attacking the protocol. You can learn more about that incident and the great discussion here.
Note:
This does not cover everything related to POAP Ethics, but is a starting point for discussion on an important and timely topic.
First, it is necessary to discuss what ownership is？Secondly, about poap ethics，burn user assets, ethically?Are there any loopholes in your rules?It is not a question of whether to go to the center or not, this is the use of privilege for evil！！
Short-sighted, don’t focus on how to prevent farmers every day. POAP was stolen. We react to situations in discord, not only unresolved. Also kicked mercilessly. What’s the difference between you and a thief? Serious centralization and very selfish behavior. What is your ultimate goal of destroying the community consensus established by your own community members? Are you satisfied with your current achievements? Start to swell?
Hello to the POAP community and thanks for listening our 2 cents. In my humble opinion, I see a POAP as a family ring that it’s yours and you cherish a lot, but that in a bad time you might need to sell. If POAPs want to be meaningful in the NFTs universe they need to have the same features or they’ll reduce to a niche and die slowly… If the POAP philosophy is to be a collectible that represents an event, why shouldn’t a person that didn’t attended be able to buy it and collect it as any other memorabilia? Just FYI: I’ve various POAPs and never sold one. Just think that if the POAP wants to survive in this crypto universe needs to stand among so many projects or it will loose it’s grip… Best of success and long life to POAPs, my entry door to this marvelous world last year
Poaps cannot be bought or sold. Why do I need to charge 0.1 ETH tax when I can switch to OPENSEA on ETH chain Directly turn off the transfer transaction function, only the wallet address exists. To achieve a performance that is just proof
You have the ability to burn all the thousands and hundreds of POAP holders and start all over again. Don’t do this disgusting thing without any technology. Your ultimate goal is how to prevent farmers and crack down on early players. Just be happy.
Poap can trade is a very normal behavior, although poap is attended to prove, but a lot of poap design is very beautiful, and the people who take part in the project itself may just go to a meeting, collect the poap incidentally, then these poap can reflect its value in the secondary market, poap itself is using block chain technology, All poAP collection is recorded on the blockchain, so if the project party wants to trace the attendance certificate of these meetings, it can be judged by receiving the record. Therefore, whether the transaction can be done does not affect the attributes of the attendance certificate of THE POAP itself. But if they can’t be traded, many well-designed POaps won’t be owned by people who really like them.
for example, Xcopy’s POAP, is beautifully designed and very popular with collectors in the secondary market.
On the other hand, I think it’s a false proposition that codes are shared, because for the POAP app, there are many ways to distribute POaps, there are codes, there are links, there are whitelisting by collecting addresses, and if a meeting is really a very private meeting, Why didn’t he distribute poaps in the form of a whitelist of collected address Settings? But in a way that is easy for people outside the conference, or even scientists, to know about and get access to the POAP? The project side that published the POAP didn’t care that the POAP was available to anyone outside the conference.
Among all those burnt wallets earlier today, I knew one, whose owner is the issuer of a poap in last summer, he is one of the earliest passionate POAP supporters and collectors in Chinese community, all the POAPs in his wallet were burnt earlier today, I feel sad for him, in a lot of late nights and early mornings of Asian HongKong time, he was full of passion, participating in a lot of online meetings and games to get these POAPs, besides, he bought in the market. He said he didn’t get the early issuer POAP that he could have got by issuing POAP, He even spent more than 500 DAI in the market to buy an early issuer POAP. I think he loves collecting POAP. he said in some addresses, there are repeated POAPs from the same event, why weren’t those burned this time, why was his burned" he felt very sad and confused, I understand his feeling, I witnessed some of his attendings, I think he deserves an explanation, at least to tell him why, and the current warning/notice we could see from the official channel can’t explain.
I can tell a story about secondary market trading.
The majority of my POAPs were diverted by hackers exploiting vulnerabilities caused by my careless testing of third-party tools. There are some very special and priceless memories, such as Early Issuers POAP. I considered issuing a POAP to commemorate the POAP Heist, similar to what SuperPhiz did. But when I saw this POAP for sale on the secondary market, I thought I could buy it back. I wish I had this POAP in my personal collection.
However, the POAP I purchased was stolen from someone else, so I had to return it. As a result, I did not obtain my POAP and lost money and time.
Following this, I believe the SuperPhiz approach is more appropriate. My POAP was stolen, and being stolen is a part of my life. Regarding my desire to see the POAPs in my collection, it is not difficult to accomplish. I will add a feature in POAP.in that allow users to access the day’s collection by date, just like a time capsule.
With all of this discussion, the ultimate focus is on POAP ownership!
POAP issuer, just issuer. When the applicant applies for POAP, the ownership will be given to the applicant. When the applicant sends his certificate of participation, the ownership is the person who obtained POAP through normal channels.
POAP issuer has no right to interfere!
It can be purchased in the market. This is equivalent to philately, which is beneficial to collectors, who like to collect POAPs with different designs.
If the project party applying for POAP has relevant needs, it can fully determine whether it is the first address of MINT.
The sharing of secret words is uncontrollable. It is a rule that needs to be set by the participants, and has nothing to do with the POAP issuer. The other party has applied for POAP, and its ownership belongs to the applicant, and the POAP issuer has no right to interfere! ! !
For POAPs that have not participated in the collection of activities, if new rules are to be established, there must be a time point. In the absence of new rules, no party has the right to burn it.
If you want to prevent the sharing of secret words, you can completely dispense with POAP in this way.
Burning all POAPs of an address without a trace of judgment is arbitrary without human rights.
所有讨论的这一切，最终的重点就在于POAP的所有权问题！
POAP发行方，只是发行方。申请方申请到了POAP，那所有权就要给申请方，当申请方发送了自己的参会证明后，那所有权就是通过正常渠道获得POAP的人。
POAP发行方，无权干预！
1、市场上可以购买，这个是相当于集邮，利于收藏家，就是喜欢收集那些设计不一样的POAP。
申请POAP的项目方，如果有相关需要，完全可以判断是否是MINT的第一次地址。
2、分享密语是不可控的，是需要参会方设定的规则，跟POAP 发行方没有任何关系。对方申请了POAP，其所有权就是申请人方的，POAP发行方无权干预！！！
3、没有参与活动收集的POAP，如果要确立新规则，那要有时间点，在没有出现新的规则的情况下，没有任何一方有权利去烧毁它。
如果想杜绝，密语分享，完全可以不采用此种方式进行POAP发放。
没有一丝判断就全部烧毁一个地址的所有POAP，就是毫无人权的专断了。
If trading or sending poaps are forbidden or becomes not legit, why not change poap to soul-bounded!
I really would like to have a clear recommendation and rule from poap team what is allowed what is not! And if transfer is not allowed, please ensure that from the contract, or blacklist epor or other ways which offer this transfer function, to avoid misuses.
Should people be able to purchase POAP’s on the secondary market?
Let the creator of that POAP decide for it . The creator should be able to choose to issue poap as soulbound token or not.
How should we think about those who intentionally try and manipulate the protocol?
Again let the creator of that POAP decide for it . I think POAP should not act as higher authority here and just build the infrastructure to response to this kind of behavior and the issuer of that POAP decides.
Options could be :
1.Update the metadata of that poap and invalidate it .
2.if you put it in the POAP smart contract , the issuer can transfer those POAPs to dead address .
3. block specific address to prevent mint the poap or future drops
I think that by providing the infra the issuers will work together to tackle the problem . for example they can work together to create a list of violators or farmers .
The profit-seeking behavior of human beings cannot be restrained by human’s own morality, so for real farmers’ behavior, there must be technology and clear rules. There must be clear rules to differentiate the “farmer” and the “passionate collector”, I won’t forget your COO izgnzlz.eth post on twitter on Dec.16th, she said “P.O.A.P. was established in 2018 by @worthalter, @gomox_ar, @dmf7z and @reneil1337 and grew slowly (and then all at once) through the enthusiastic adoption of issuers and passionate POAP collectors.” I was excited to see this message as it seems you had recognized the contribution of early issuers and passionate POAP collectors and I replied to support. And 5 minutes later, I found my twitter was blocked by this lady. Please draw a line, first of all, define “farmer” and “passionate collector”, any passionate collector outside your circle can be regarded as farmer, because you can’t remember all the participants for the events, you can’t just take for granted those you know are passionate collectors and those you aren’t familiar with are farmers, that’s not the right logic…
I think poap project parties should respect every collector who loves collections. The style of each poap is different. It records the growth of poap and witnesses the efforts and efforts of collectors, rather than blindly suppressing. We are a community of love and peace, a community full of feelings, rather than autocratic hegemony like fascist countries.
Now the most important thing is to discuss whether people should be able to buy poap in the secondary market? At first, the contract was not set as a non transferable asset. Now, it seems that there is no reason to discuss here whether to support the purchase of poap, or even the transfer of poap on the blockchain. The assets belonging to the blockchain belong to every asset holder and have the right to make their own choices
I will add a feature in