#72408 - 2022-10-05 - Drop - No review follow-up email received

  1. Drop ID: 72408
  2. Community information: University of Arizona’s MA{VR}X Lab https://mavrxlab.org
  3. Nature of the event: Commemoration and appreciation for being a participant in a study on Web3.
  4. Distribution plan: drops to gathered addresses.
  5. Why do you believe this petition is being held? Not sure. Received confirmation of drop creation but no review follow-up. Happy to address whatever concerns or questions there are.

Hello @ryanstraight

You are going to have to finish creating the POAP Drop petition
This is what the Curators see (there isn’t anything to review or approve)

Ah, thank you, Julie. So since I won’t be requesting them or know the exact number and addresses for about a month, I’ll need to wait until then to set up the delivery? (Going off this: How Do I Set Up Delivery? | POAP Help Center)

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Hello @ryanstraight

That is correct- once you have collected all of the ETH wallet addresses you can come complete the delivery.

Just know that once the delivery is submitted it cannot be edited or changed in any way.

Fantastic, thank you!

One note for now, though: I understand pre-announcing POAP giveaways is against best practices. However, because I’m using it in relation to being a participant in an IRB-approved research study, technically they consider it compensation (even if it has no monetary value), so it has to be disclosed at the consent point (ie, before actually participating in the study). I’m using a variety of methods (some automatic, some manual) to ensure only those that have completed the study legitimately are awarded the POAP. I trust that should be sufficient to allay any concerns about farming.

Hello @ryanstraight

These are the guidelines you are referring to:

Also be aware that the Curators manually research all POAP Drop Petitions, as they are responsible for protecting the POAP ecosystem and are champions for the preservation of the POAP Protocol.

Also know that POAP actively combats engagement farming. Pre-announcing the POAP doesn’t only attract farmers, but also it seems to be used as an engagement farming activity. Engagement farming is generally defined as issuers using POAPs in a way that incentivizes transactional behavior. Any statement to the effect of “Do X to get a POAP” is basically a marker of engagement farming.

Asking people to take a survey after telling them that they will receive a POAP can be considered engagement farming.

Curators will find (and read) this article when they are researching your delivery Petition.

In this article you state:

  1. “You’re planning an event or something similar. (Honestly, this can be whatever.)”

Please understand that the event to be commemorated with a POAP cannot be “whatever” .
There are standards and guidelines that the Curation Body works very hard to preserve and uphold.

Please be aware that statements such as this do not serve to properly educate others about what POAP is or how the ecosystem thrives or how amazing the POAP community really is.

We really count on issuers such as yourself to be good stewards of the POAP Protocol while being model citizens within the POAP community.

Please read this article for further information: What Is POAP? | POAP Help Center
I look forward to hearing your thoughts. :slight_smile:

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Thank you, @julie! Some clarification:

That article on the lab’s website is from last year, unrelated to the study. The “You’re planning an event” line is part of a general description of the POAP process, since it’s not just events that folks use POAPs for. The study and consent form can be found here: https://mavrxlab.org/ed3study/ I’m actually going to go back and update the copy in that post to reflect the changes in the POAP process and ecosystem. Much has changed since then!

I’m very attuned to wanting to keep the highest standards in terms of POAP issuance, which is why I’m taking genuine and numerous steps to only deliver POAPs to those who engage in good faith. These include programmatic methods built into the survey where the address is collected (at the end, after progressing through dozens of required response items), like anti-bot measures, IP checks, and the like. Upon study completion, I have a variety of statistical methods to determine whether participants engaged in good faith, like attention checks and tests against maximizing/minimizing. Unfortunately, due to the legality surrounding research and human subjects protection protocols, announcing the POAP isn’t something I can avoid and still ensure proper attention and deference is paid to the process while maintaining expected levels of deidentification for participants. I’d actually be very interested in talking with the POAP folks to work out a method for this!

I hope all that makes sense! Does that help?

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I appreciate you.
This conversation will be here for the Curators to review as part of the overall approval process once your POAP Delivery has been completed and is ready for review!
Thank you for your concern and candid replies.

I look forward to seeing this upcoming POAP Drop and your future ones!

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Wonderful! It’s we who truly appreciate you, @julie, and all of the POAP folks!


Due to inactivity, this thread will close if you do not reply soon.

All the best,
The POAP Curation Body